You know what really grinds my gears? It seems to me that the race issue is one that has great control over Roy's life. As someone who has dealt with it for decades, i'm sure one must become jaded to a point. I won't pretend to know what he or any other racially discriminated person has gone through, as a white male, age 18-35, I have that luxury. I will say however that i know for fact that some of the things he says are true. I know some of the people that wrote some of the letters he mentions. I've been in the coffee shop or at the bar when the boys are talking Riders and things like "Szarka doesn't get the ball cause he's a white guy" are said, and regularily. Now, maybe that's a reflection on the people I hang out with, but there is some validity to his comments. Is everyone in the Rider nation a racist??? No, certainly not. I like to think that the majority of the green faithfull root for the team, not for the color of the guys taking the field. As is the case often in life however, the negative in a situation is given the limelight. As a football fan, i have not always agreed with Shivers and his decisions, but i do give him full marks for this fact. The Riders as a team and as an organization are light years ahead of where they we're in the final days of Al Ford(where have you gone Reggie Slack). We are competitive year in and year out. We have a legitimate shot every season at a winning Grey Cup. We are no longer running annual "Save the Riders!!" Telethons. Quite simply, the bar has been raised considerably. For much of this, I praise Roy Shivers. He did what he said he was gonna do, the Saskatchewan Roughriders are a better club in all facets now, than they we're when he got here. All that being said, I think Roy may be a little more sensitive to the race issue than others, and with his outspoken style, he's not afraid to say it. I guess my point is,that when the smoke clears, and the Riders have won the Grey cup this year(god willing), that Roy Shivers will be remembered in Saskatchewan as the man who built this team, and as a great football mind, instead of as a bitter, old man who thought everyone hated him because of his dreadocks. And that is what really grinds my gears.
my bggest issue with him is the fact that he decided to shed light on the firing at the worst of times, maybe just because he has a captive audience.
I was a staunch supporter of his regime for all the facts yo point out, I signed petitions and actually had a few back and forths with Jim Hopson (like that ever mattered) but instead of requesting to join "his team" on the sidelines in what could be the biggest year or the Riders, he unleashed a verbal ass whooping that took the focus from our team who will undoubtebly will go to the show. Stating that Danny Barrett will leave next year to greener pastures is the worst. Imagine a team playing for a guy who is labelled for mail next year.
I'm going to throw in a prediction here, Danny Barrett will be a coach in the CFL next eyar and it will be with the Hamilton Ti-Cats.
You're right about the timing, and he's bang on about Danny not being here. Grey Cup or not, Danny will not be here next year and there will be a lot of changes in Riderville because of it. Hamilton is an interesting possibility, but what about Montreal? As for gang gopher, prepare yourselves for the era of Kent Austin to begin, close family friends with the Tillman's you see. But I get ahead of ourselves. My wish list is as follows. A Grey Cup win for our beloved roughies. That is all. Now really is that too much to ask.
I don't doubt for a second that black men face racial discrimination in Regina, just like they do in any whitebread town in Canada or elsewhere. However, despite all that, he got hired and had a seven year run. Getting more than three or four years at the helm is very rare in professional sports when you lose. And in his seven years, the Riders STILL failed to host a single home playoff game. In a league where more than three-fifths of the teams make the playoffs, that's inexcusable. They've barely managed to be a .500 team, seven years later. Roy, you had your seven years. The guys who get more time than that WIN. Al Ford got way to much time to lose and lose again. I think the problem with the Riders as a franchise is they STILL have more patience than any other. LP
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You know what really grinds my gears? It seems to me that the race issue is one that has great control over Roy's life. As someone who has dealt with it for decades, i'm sure one must become jaded to a point. I won't pretend to know what he or any other racially discriminated person has gone through, as a white male, age 18-35, I have that luxury. I will say however that i know for fact that some of the things he says are true. I know some of the people that wrote some of the letters he mentions. I've been in the coffee shop or at the bar when the boys are talking Riders and things like "Szarka doesn't get the ball cause he's a white guy" are said, and regularily. Now, maybe that's a reflection on the people I hang out with, but there is some validity to his comments. Is everyone in the Rider nation a racist??? No, certainly not. I like to think that the majority of the green faithfull root for the team, not for the color of the guys taking the field. As is the case often in life however, the negative in a situation is given the limelight. As a football fan, i have not always agreed with Shivers and his decisions, but i do give him full marks for this fact. The Riders as a team and as an organization are light years ahead of where they we're in the final days of Al Ford(where have you gone Reggie Slack). We are competitive year in and year out. We have a legitimate shot every season at a winning Grey Cup. We are no longer running annual "Save the Riders!!" Telethons. Quite simply, the bar has been raised considerably. For much of this, I praise Roy Shivers. He did what he said he was gonna do, the Saskatchewan Roughriders are a better club in all facets now, than they we're when he got here. All that being said, I think Roy may be a little more sensitive to the race issue than others, and with his outspoken style, he's not afraid to say it.
I guess my point is,that when the smoke clears, and the Riders have won the Grey cup this year(god willing), that Roy Shivers will be remembered in Saskatchewan as the man who built this team, and as a great football mind, instead of as a bitter, old man who thought everyone hated him because of his dreadocks.
And that is what really grinds my gears.
Geo
my bggest issue with him is the fact that he decided to shed light on the firing at the worst of times, maybe just because he has a captive audience.
I was a staunch supporter of his regime for all the facts yo point out, I signed petitions and actually had a few back and forths with Jim Hopson (like that ever mattered) but instead of requesting to join "his team" on the sidelines in what could be the biggest year or the Riders, he unleashed a verbal ass whooping that took the focus from our team who will undoubtebly will go to the show. Stating that Danny Barrett will leave next year to greener pastures is the worst. Imagine a team playing for a guy who is labelled for mail next year.
I'm going to throw in a prediction here, Danny Barrett will be a coach in the CFL next eyar and it will be with the Hamilton Ti-Cats.
You're right about the timing, and he's bang on about Danny not being here. Grey Cup or not, Danny will not be here next year and there will be a lot of changes in Riderville because of it. Hamilton is an interesting possibility, but what about Montreal? As for gang gopher, prepare yourselves for the era of Kent Austin to begin, close family friends with the Tillman's you see. But I get ahead of ourselves. My wish list is as follows. A Grey Cup win for our beloved roughies. That is all. Now really is that too much to ask.
I don't doubt for a second that black men face racial discrimination in Regina, just like they do in any whitebread town in Canada or elsewhere. However, despite all that, he got hired and had a seven year run.
Getting more than three or four years at the helm is very rare in professional sports when you lose. And in his seven years, the Riders STILL failed to host a single home playoff game. In a league where more than three-fifths of the teams make the playoffs, that's inexcusable.
They've barely managed to be a .500 team, seven years later. Roy, you had your seven years. The guys who get more time than that WIN.
Al Ford got way to much time to lose and lose again. I think the problem with the Riders as a franchise is they STILL have more patience than any other.
LP
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